The tone stack calculator is designed to help you check out the design and response curves of a variety of tone stacks used in popular guitar amplifiers. Hiwatt was always the amp a band could rely on back in the 1970s and it would have been a tragedy if, in an attempt to get the price down, the company had let its standards slip. This powerful little package has a pair of 10 speakers driven by a bold 20 watts. Your mod changed the way the tone stack reacts, there are many mod you can try there, and listen to the result. Hiwatt is more percussive and faster with less sustain. Trusted windows pc download tone stack calculator 1. Kit that builds on dave cigna and duncan munros work in duncans tonestack calculator.
Differences between a hiwatt and a marshall fender. Yes your observation about hiwatt tone is no illusion, i use the mid at close to zero a lot in my rig. Anything above 5s on the treble and bass are going to yield a midcut. Just add an spst onoff miniswitch to the mid pots or 6. He attended technical school in the late 1950s, and did apprenticeships at marconi electronics and mullard. Here is the tone stack from the hiwatt cp103, better known as the amp. Hi all, ive created a crossplatform mobile app called tonestack kit that builds on dave. Aug 17, 2010 the marshall clean tone comes across as very weak and distorted when compared sidebyside with the hiwatt s obvious clean prowess. It is intended to be of interest to amplifier technicians, amp modifiers, hobbyists and students. Tone stack calculator is a 32 bit application, and has not been tested to run under windows 3. Hiwatt custom 20hd mini stack is well, a mini about 43 inches highversion of the hiwatt stacks head and 2 cabs two channels, clean and distorted works off footswitch or button on front. Simply click on the appropriate tab to bring up a different schematic.
Oh i have a work around for that problem if you or anyone is interested. As there have been a few comments about the fabled dumble amps i thought id share my findings with you. The fendermarshallvox tmb treble mid bass tone stack has been around. Among new amps, reeves and mywatt seem to be the best options. For a lowimpedance driver like a cathode follower, this is a highlyaccurate assumption. The implementation is almost entirely done with functions, with only one special type and no pattern matching at all, so it is a great testing ground for the concepts introduced in this series. The hiwatt is a plate fed tone stack with a cathode bypass cap. If your browser opensruns program files, the installation will be automatic.
It does not account for coupling capacitor bass attenuation. To simplify the mathematics, well make two important assumptions. Rare hiwatt mica 220pf cap for tone stack you are viewing a auction for one old tested lemco mica 220pf as used in vintage hiwatt dr 50 watt or 100 watt amplifiers. I am by no means a hiwatt expert but just scored a vintage dr103 from around 1974 with all original mullard valves, and by god it is nice. The hiwatt comes off of the 220k plate resistor, the marshall feed comes off of the 100k cathode resistor. You can access this feature by going to app settings midi and turning on the midi learn units switch. A baxandall, like many old hifi amps, which can give you a scooped tone if you turn up both controls quite a. The mid knob, in addition to its other duties, controls how loudly the entire signal leaves the tone. Just listen to some live stuff by jethro tull from about 19701972 just as sweet and thick as any marshall tone from around the same time.
Controls include gain, fine, 3band eq, and a cleanclean gain switch. Hiwatt dr103 all purpose 100w heads with mullard 4xel34 power tubes and 4xecc83 preamp tubes. The tone stack calculator is designed to help you check out the design. My 76 non master marshall has more sustain less dynamics and more spead out sounding so it can get lost. The unauthorized use, reproduction, or passing on of individual content items. When i played through one for the first time a dr103 made in 1972, all of a sudden, my marshalls felt very thin in tone in comparison. The resulting algorithm was then used to implement a vst plugin, which can be downloaded for free at the end of this page. On this page i use the 5f6a bassmans tone stack but all the stack s component values can vary in other amps. I recommend the deluxe edition of that album since it has the whole performance. If youve ever heard foreigners hot blooded, that is what that hiwatt sounded like. Its a program written in c that is supposed to take the operations of a stack calculator and store the operands of a mathematical expression. The mid controls more of the overall contour of the entire tone stack.
Hiwatt custom 20 watt ministack amplifier musicians friend. Build 25 released, added support for large fonts and to allow resizing of the window. The gotchca for those that tinker is the 500k bass pot on hiwatt tone has to be true log not the fake ones. Like nysbob said, the whos live at leeds album 1970 is a good showcase of hiwatt tones, for both bass and guitar. Download tone stack calculator calculate the response curves of guitar amplifiers with multiple.
Ive got both hiwatt and marshall amps, and they are certainly apples and oranges. Its also equipped with an effects loop, footswitch input, and headphone jack. I cant download the highlytouted tone stack calculator im on an older mac, unfortunately. This amp has the james style tone, which youll see can come very close to the fender curve. If we would crank both amps at full tilt, hiwatt would bark, and marshall would scream out of fear. Hiwatt cp103 and dr103w pete townshends guitar gear. With fendertype stacks the bass and treble knobs mostly just. Outofthebox, tonestack comes with 6 amps, 6 cabs and 21 effects. Old ampegs have baxandall tone circuits they have a mid knob, but its seperate from the bass and treble controls, like the fac and the hf drive are seperate from the bass and treble in the orange.
The hiwatt dr103 custom 100 featured an 11tube chassis pushing 100 watts through two separate channels that used either two or four inputs. Use the document level analysis to get a sense of the overall tone of the document, and use the sentence level analysis to identify specific areas of your content where tones are the strongest. The duncan tone stack calculator does what you want to but you have to run in a windows enviroment, sorry mixn4him, aug 1, 2014. The hiwatt dr103 is notably louder and can also run much cleaner than100 watt marshalls when needed and they also have tremendous headroom available. The tone stack explained in english for humans pick roar. Tone stack calculator download shows the response curves and. Amp similar to hiwatt on the cheap music player network. After youve downloaded crossover check out our youtube tutorial video to the left, or visit the crossover chrome os walkthrough for specific steps. Setting system time signature and bpm touch the metronome icon on the upper menu to access settings for the time signature, and to manually set the bpm. Here is the classic james tone stack as used, for example, in the 120watt orange graphic.
Hiwatt has proudly crafted truly handmade amplifiers and cabinets, serving the worlds best players since 1966. Here is the tone stack from the hiwatt cp103, better known as the amp created for the who. May 15, 2019 download tone stack calculator free duncan amps. The tone analyzer service analyzes text at the document level and the sentence level. These are placed right in the treble tone stack for a hiwatt. The bass knob is more of a fixedfreqency gain control. I was experimenting in my amp circuit trying some cap values i had worked out in the tone stack calculator. But i was hearing different results then what was shown in the tsc. Starting in the late 1960s, together with marshall and vox, hiwatt contributed to the sonic image popularly termed british sound.
The vst plugin described on this page emulates a typical marshall tonestack. Hylight electronics was the brainchild of british audio engineer david reeves. This is in part by design, as i live in a small apartment and a large amp would not win me points amongst the neighbors. To start out, you teach tonestack midi by a feature called midi learn. Can someone explain fender tone stack interaction to.
Skip to main content skip to footer site5111780038 used 111780038 hiwatt custom hiwatt 20hd guitar stack. The tone stack frequency is the frequency of the mid control in active mode. After that, all you have to do is select the tonestack parameter you want to map to and then manipulate an element on your midi controller that you intend to use. Amazing features and tone stack and they can had for 600750 in the used market. As promised for andrew k and anyone else that is interested this is a tone stack comparison between the standard fender, dumble and hiwatt. Because this type of tone stack really loads down the guitar signal being able to eliminate the tone stack is a valuable option. Tone stack calculator grapher for mac discussion in ampscabs tech corner.
Tone stack bypass or raw switch this is a great mod for pretty much any amp with a tmb treble mid bass tone stack. There are a couple of things you need to know about the hiwatt design that make things seem a little backwards if youre used to other british amp heads. In the mid 70s, i had the opportunity to take some private lessons with bill connors return to forevers first, and best, electric guitarist when he lived in the san francisco bay area. The tone stack calculator is designed to help you check out the design and. Nov 07, 2016 the hiwatt is a plate fed tone stack with a cathode bypass cap. Built by hand in england, every custom shop amplifier is soaktested before it leaves the factory to serve a new generation of musicians. Fender modern, vox, marshall, james passive predecessor to baxandall, fender e series, steve bench, hiwatt tone stack, and now the big muff tone stack used in fx units. Can someone explain fender tone stack interaction to newbie. For example, how does changing the treble setting impact the bass frequencies and vice versa. The common filenames for the programs installer are calc. Patricks day sale take 15% off thousands of listings for a limited time. The next plot below assumes the tone stack is driven by a 12ax7 voltage amplifier with an output impedance of 39k and a followon grid resistor representing an input impedance of 1m. I was able to find a vintage hiwatt for less than a current production hiwatt new or. Heres a good example of the rich hiwatt tone he got in 82.
If you throw el34s in an old ampeg, you get a very similar tone to an old orange. That being said i do have a desire to break out into the real world and get an amp. Hi james, youre right, i dont discuss nearly enough british gear in my column. The horizontal axis is a log scale of frequency from 10hz to 10khz and the vertical scale is from 15db to 0db. To use tonestack with a physical midi clock, or a midi clock from another app, put the use internal clock switch on the midi settings menu in the off position. With all the modeling going on these days i thought it might be of value to show the transfer curves of the tone stacks in fender, marshall and vox ac30tb tube amps. There is greater overall attenuation and a slight shift upward in the frequency at which gain is minimum, but the response is not dramatically different. I remember trying out a late 1970s hiwatt half stack in a music store many years ago. The above amplifier was purchased from the original hiwatt amplification company circa 1985, was originally custom built produced for pete townshend the who circa 19711972. Below, it is explained, how the tonestack was discretized. Look at splawn, splawn uses plate load tone stacks but have an extra gain stageor two up front and also a. The calculator plots gain versus frequency based on the characteristics of the tube, resistor values, and the capacitor value.
The valve saturation stays clean with all of those lovely harmonics. To see how component values affect the tone stacks output you can use the duncan amps tone stack calculator program discussed below. In, headphone jack, and speakers out 28ohm my cabs contain 10 hiwatt speakers. Playing a hiwatt at a loud volume is well an experience. Hiwatt dr103 all purpose 100w heads with mullard 4xel34 power. In fact, what may appear at first as a simple variation and copy on the marshall superlead in what was the form of the hiwatt custom 100 dr103 head, further examination quickly reveals that the design itself was actually far from it.
Hiwatt cp103 and dr103w pete townshends guitar gear whotabs. Aug 08, 2014 it needs to be noted that hiwatt was not one of these companies. David would also scale down his rig for tvappearances in 1970a71 using only one hiwatt head and a wem cabinet. The fanes are part of the equation and sound very deep and warm and work great with the spikey tone. The above amplifier has a unique tone circuit which was specifically designed by david reeves hiwatt for pete townshend of the who circa 197172. To see how component values affect the tone stack s output you can use the duncan amps tone stack calculator program discussed below. On this page i use the 5f6a bassmans tone stack but all the stacks component values can vary in other amps.
The result is a warm, responsive tone with the natural behavior you find in analog units. Ive searched and read some articles but am still confused about how the treble, mid, and bass settings interact in fender and other tube amps. Tone stack calculator grapher for mac the gear page. People with a working concept of the tone stack sometimes talk about the mid control as a way to fill in the big valley missing from midrange frequency response created by the way the two other tone controls work. Hiwatt is a british company who manufactures amplifiers for electric guitars and electric basses. Values can be altered simply by doubleclicking on the component.
Tube amp tone control stacks and settings aperio guitar. Commonly found in hifi designs usually centred around a midrange frequency of 1khz, while most guitar amp tone circuits are centred around a midrange frequency from 300hz to 500hz. The treble knob is less of a gain on a fixed frequency than shift between an upper mid and a treble boost. This thing on the other hand delivers such a punch that it will blow the marshall stack out of his feet, while still delivering consistent balanced tone. Ive owned and restored five hiwatt amps with great success.
Entwistle used several 100w hiwatt cr103 amps and one of his frankenstein precision basses for that show and his tone is heavy on the mids. The fendermarshallvox tmb treble mid bass tone stack has been around since the 1950s and has become a staple with fender and marshall amps. First, well assume that the driving circuit has an output impedance of zero. Add to all this the many powerful guitar effects that tonestack brings to ios for the first time. Love aint for keepin the who toronto 121782 youtube. It had two inputs like the marshall master volume heads of the same vintage, and it had a little more preamp gain than a marshall. Used hiwatt custom hiwatt 20hd guitar stack guitar center.
Here is what i just thought of could be causing this. I have never played a current production hiwatt, but when faced with the same decision that you find yourself in now, i went with a vintage hiwatt 1975 dr 103. This technique is often used for the preamps bright channel. In this post, well implement a simple stack based calculator also known as reverse polish style. Differences between a hiwatt and a marshall discussion in amp input normal. The stack is also found in sound city amplifiers like the sc105.
When an operation is performed, the last two values on the stack are removed and used as the operands, then the result of the operation is placed on the stack. Free downloadable tone stack calculator mac mac programs like tone generator for mac, preflopper poker calculator mac os x, fractal time calculator. But if someone says you cant get singing lead tones out of a hiwatt, then, thats a lie. Hiwatts 4x12 cabinets also play an important part in the their overall tonesomething i first discovered with a marshall major, ironically enough. Download the latest version of tone stack calculator free. Tone stack calculator free download windows version. Jun 08, 2010 the tone stack frequency is the frequency of the mid control in active mode.
Look at splawn, splawn uses plate load tone stacks but have an extra gain stageor two up front and also a ton of treble snubber caps. When marshall copied the fender 5f6a bassman almost verbatim to create the jtm45 amplifier the fender tmb tone stack came with it and its still being designed into new amps today. My 57 reissue strat currently serves me by use of a guitarpo. Passive klangregelnetzwerke kann man mit dem tone stack calculator. Hiwatt tone stack, and now the big muff tone stack used in fx units. Tonestack offers you an enormous range of amps, cabs and effects. While working his day job, young reeves also started working evenings in a small room over plato music on crown passage in morden from 19641968. I was using the marshall circuit in the tsc, and my amp is a marshall. In passive mode the tone stack is frequency scaled by the ratio of the entered value to the default value.
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